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Felsen-Geologie-Klettern – Eine Vorstellung von Klettergesteinen.

Eine Vorstellung von Klettergesteinen

(von Dipl.-Geol. Harald Rost, Windischeschenbach, März 2019)

Klettergesteine! Schon wieder?

Ja 🙂 ! Erstens ist es nicht schlecht, wenn man weiß, was man so anfaßt oder in was man so hineingreift 😉 . Zweitens scheint das Interesse da zu sein und nicht zuletzt Drittens, ist nicht alles gut oder auch nur richtig, was dazu so veröffentlicht wird, einiges aber umgekehrt so gut und vor allem auch so schön bebildert, daß folgend gerne darauf gelinkt wird.

Da der Autor selbst Geologe und Petrograph ist, entschied er sich schon bei der Beschreibung der Neuhauser Burgfelsen im November 2016 dazu, die potentiellen Leser auch mit einigen Informationen zur Geologie der Burgfelsen wie zu alternativen Klettergesteinen im 100-km-Radius um Windischeschenbach „zu beglücken“ – ohne allerdings selbst mit zu großem Interesse dafür zu rechnen. Die Resonanz war überraschend positiv und motivierend und führte, zusammen mit der weiteren Ausarbeitung der  Gesteins-Tags bei thecrag, im April 2017 schließlich zu einem etwas umfassenderen „geologischen Kletterartikel“: Klettergesteine – Klettern für geologisch Interessierte

Darin wurden 43 kletterbare Gesteinstypen nach Genese (sedimentär, metamorph, plutonisch, vulkanisch, hydrothermal und metasomatisch) gelistet und zu weiteren Beschreibungen sowie zu Beispiel-Crags verlinkt. In dieser Form und „Vollständigkeit“ weltweit quasi erstmalig 🙂 . Um die Ergebnisse event. Interessierten über Googlerecherche tatsächlich möglichst umfänglich zugänglich zu machen, wurde daher, etwas weniger regional und sektionsbezogen, sogar eine englische Version online gestellt.

Auf ein dozierendes Wiederkäuen der entweder ohnehin gemeinhin bekannten oder im Netz zumindest leicht nachlesbaren allgemeinen Gesteins-Informationen wurde dabei weitgehend verzichtet. Stattdessen wurde versucht, über entsprechende Verlinkung den Lesern ein leichtes eigenes Weiterklicken nach Gusto zu ermöglichen und sich ansonsten stichpunktartig auf übersichtliche Minimalinformation zu beschränken. Was bspw. Granit ist und aus welchen Mineralien er besteht, weiß ein Kletterer entweder selbst noch aus der Schule oder es wird ihm in praktisch jedem Artikel über Gesteine erneut präsentiert – durchaus unterschiedlich gut.

Die Anzahl entsprechender Artikel läßt jedenfalls durchaus auf  steigendes Interesse und Bewußtsein der Kletterer für Geologie und die Gesteine, an denen sie klettern, schließen. Beim Einen oder Anderen regen sie teilweise sicher auch erst an, sich mit dem Thema zu beschäftigen:

Einige Veröffentlichungen im Themenfeld Geologie + Klettern

– Das gemeinsame Alpenvereinsjahrbuch von Deutscher Alpenverein (DAV), Österreichischer Alpenverein (ÖAV) und Alpenverein Südtirol (AVS) enthält in der Ausgabe 2018 einen Artikel „Den Fels begreifen. Zur Geologie von Klettergesteinen„.

– Beim DAV-Hauptverband findet man an unterschiedlichen Stellen unterschiedlich gute Info

Felsen und Geologie (alpenverein.de, Panorama-Magazin)
Geologie (felsinfo.alpenverein.de)
Geologie und Böden (alpenverein.de)

– Der ÖAV hat eine gute Information in seiner Mitgliedszeitung

Achtung Stein! Teil 1
Achtung Stein! Teil 2
Achtung Stein! Teil 3

– Die Zeitschrift klettern nimmt sich des Themas an:

Gesteinsarten – Fels-Typen und Gesteine (auch Kalk)
Fels-Typen und Gesteine – Alles über Fels

– Im Magazin Bergwelten werden einzelne Gesteinsarten beschrieben:

Felskunde – Kalkstein – Zeuge des Urmeeres

– Offenbar gilt sogar „Geology sells“ 🙂 :

Klettershop Chalkr bietet eine Kletterlexikon-Info (Bsp. Kalkstein)
Ortovox-Sportartikel GmbH informiert über Felsarten – das Rohmaterial für Kletterer, s.a. Youtubevideo

– Natürlich gibt es auch englischsprachige Info:

3 Types of Rock for Climbing: Granite, Sandstone & Limestone

Don’t Take it for Granite: Understanding Different Rock Types for Climbing

In Rockclimbing.com:

In Climbing:

Nicht zuletzt wurden die Infos zwischenzeitlich auch in thecrag.com genutzt.

Den Geologen im Autor freut dies natürlich, andererseits ist es schade, wenn doch teilweise schon mit der Eingangslektüre falsche Vorstellungen bestärkt und mißverständliche, zu unvollständige oder manchmal gar falsche Informationen gestreut werden und so bei den Kletterkollegen ggf. falsches „Grundwissen“ erzeugen, das sich so über die Zeit leider manchmal auch manifestiert.

Konzept der vorliegenden „Vorstellung Klettergesteine“

Nach dem initialen eigenen, bewußt fast rein stichpunktartigen Klettergesteinsartikel“ von 2017 ist dies folgend der Grund für eine nun doch auch autorenseitig etwas umfangreichere Präsentation, die ggf. zudem für die ein oder andere Richtigstellung genutzt werden kann.

Im Sinne der Übersichtlichkeit, aber auch schlicht um dem Autoren gelegentliches, stückweises Arbeiten am Thema zu ermöglichen, wird dies an Gesteinsarten orientiert modular erfolgen und mit der Vorstellung der häufigsten und bekanntesten Klettergesteine, dem „Gesteins-Grundsortiment“ des vorstehend genannten Artikels beginnen (Arbeitsfortschritt an der Verlinkung erkennbar 🙂 ).

1. Kalkstein und Dolomit
2. Granit
3. Gneis
4. Basalt
5. Sandstein (ggf. + Konglomerate)
6. Grünstein
7. Quarz

Ergänzend drängen sich aus unterschiedlichen Gründen ggf. noch einige weitere Gesteine für eine Einzelvorstellung auf:

(8. Amphibolit)
(9. Rhyolith)

Dabei wird weiterhin versucht auf Wiederholungen und Bekanntes möglichst zu verzichten und stattdessen zu verlinken und ggf. nur stichpunktartig aufgezählt. Andernorts vom Autoren als verbesserungsbedürftig empfunden Dargestelltes wird ggf. etwas stärker betont und allgemein werden die Schwerpunkte  etwas anders gelegt, manchmal vielleicht auch auf weniger Bekanntes. Europa bzw. sogar Mitteleuopa bleibt jedoch immer im Fokus und „Vollständigkeit“ wird nicht angestrebt. Letztere kann durch eigenes Weiterhangeln anhand der Links leicht „nach Bedarf“ selbst vergrößert werden. Weiterhin gültig ist die Definition von „Klettergestein“, die der Autor 2017 postuliert hat: der „qualifizierende Beweis“ für ein „Klettergestein“ wird letztlich damit erbracht, daß dieses auch praktisch geklettert wird und sich am besten irgendwo auf der Welt zumindest beispielhaft Sportkletterrouten oder bedeutendere Bergsteigereien in diesem finden.

Der Autor hofft auf gutes Gelingen und wünscht ggf. viel Spaß beim Reinlesen.

P.S.: Eile hat es vorerst keine 🙂

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All Types of Rock and Some Geology for Climbers.

– The Rocks for Rock Climbing – 43 Suitable Rock TypesGerman Version

(by Dipl.-Geol. Harald Rost, Windischeschenbach *), April 2017)

Climbers

There really is a wide variety of climbers:

– indoor, outdoor,
– in nature and in urban environments,
– on artifical or natural grounds,
– on rocks, trees and even on buildings, antennas, spans,
– using plastic or natural holds – sometimes it even seems they use none 😮 ,
– with and without rope – and even some climbers using steel cables.

Ref: Wikimedia Commons

Oh my God! Seems to be complicated somehow. I do not want that! I wanna deal with simple facts, clear and easy to understand. Such matters as rocks 🙂 ! No variety! We climb on them and that’s it!

I suppose that is the attitude of most climbers? (In case it’s yours, too, stop here and go to the climbing gym or your favorite crag and stay there forever, if you like it 😉 )

Climbers and Rocks

Wikimedia Commons

OK, let’s forget climbing indoor and on trees and let’s just have a look at the last letter of „BASE-Climbing“ (Buildings, antennas, span, earth) (– just joking, skydivers 😉 !) „Earth“ here clearly means rock. That’s easy. Isn’t it!? – Un-/Fortunately I am a geologist and thus I tell you it isn’t, but in case you are interested, I will try to give you a rough idea about it right here 🙂

What do we climb on? What rock types? And how many?

Mostly you might become aware of that matter when you just consider whether chalk or climbing in wet conditions might damage rock holds and why different rock types dry more quickly after rain. You possibly think about why bolts might break out of rocks, rock fall might happen, sometimes even a complete crag can collapse or the economical interests of a quarry do not really fit to your hobby climbing.

So how many rock types do you already know and how many do you think exist?

Try searching Google and – up to now 🙂 – you will not be very successful with finding out what climbers being somehow interested in geology and rocks possibly would appreciate to know.

7 Rocks – the very basic range

very basic range of climbrocks

Naturally you will read something about the very basic range of rocks most climbers usually climb on. Limestone/dolomite, granite, gneiss, basalt, sandstone are commonly known after all. Possibly you are an experienced climber already having climbed all of them or even some more!?

Maybe you additionally know conglomerate by James Bond 007 (For Your Eyes Only) climbing in Meteora (see also Petzl RocTrip) and having some geological knowledge you even know that quartz can build up rocks all by itself.

Congratulations! However, that’s still just the very basic range with about 7 or 8 different rock types!

If that would be the complete range I never would have considered to start climbing or studying geology 🙂

Rocks and Climbrocks

However, how many climbrocks do exist in the world? When I asked this question for the first time, I did not find any answer at all. No overall view! Especially most articles dealing with climbing just listed limestone, granite, gneiss, sandstone, but not much more. I was not satisfied. Fortunately I am an experienced geologist and even have been a petrologist during my time at the university. (Thanks and greetings worshipped Professor Nollau 🙂 ! ) My Diploma thesis dealt with an area in South Tyrol where I was confronted with 45 different types of rock. Not all of them where suitable for climbing.

Watzmann-Ostwand

However, 45, that’s nothing! There is a tremendous number of existing rock types and unfortunately much more names for all of them (more)! Nomenclature might be related to occurrence, genesis, geological age, minerals, size of grains, colour, technical use and much more. Aggravating there are transitions and peciuliarities of rocks which result in diverging names. Additionally there sometimes are misleading trivial names, trade names and so on. There also are diverging meanings of English and German names. So, don’t be ashamed, if you simply do not know them all 🙂

I will try to simplify a little bit. Using the common genetic structuring I restrict my presentation to rock types which are in somehow broader use by climbers due to occurence, accessibility and characteristics or might be interesting thanks to other special reasons. One helpful criteria is the existence of sport climbing routes. Thus claystones, rock salt and gypsum for example are not included from the beginning although they might be climbed in individual cases or under special conditions.

Characteristics of Climbrocks

Half Dome

Rocks and their individual characteristics are essential for the forming of landscape. The landscape itself surely often influences your choice where to go for climbing. However which climbrock characteristics are essential for climbing techniques?

Is it possible to describe every type of rock you climb on by its individual climbing characteristics?

For sure it is. However, as more as you simplify for systematic reasons in order to get it somehow, it becomes harder and as soon as you only present the basic range of rock, those 7 up to 8 types mentioned at the beginning of this article, it’s nearly impossible in a really senseful way. I know, it’s done in a lot of presentations. Rocktypes are tried to be characterised and described for climbing in 4 sentences and one picture for each type. However, sorry, very often it’s simply nice bullshit! Appearing good and somehow senseful and reliable – the more often you hear it, the better it seems to be – but after all, as it is commonly done, it doesn’t make too much sense. Indeed, very quickly it becomes a discrimination of rock types 🙂 and just creates and preserves prejudices! Please stop it!

For climbing and climbing techniques not only the type of rock and its material is essential, but additional features, too, which partly even are independent of the rock itself. Texture and stuctures (history of sedimentation or intrusion and/or tectonics as well), exposition, weathering and individual site features (e.g. is the site manmade or natural) might be even more important.

Within quarries even the art of excavation influences rock and climbing. Possibly blasting which intentionally could be used for best smashing of rock already might have smashed wall faces so much that even very solid rock is completely unreliable and not suitable for climbing any longer.

El Capitan rock types
http://www.supertopo.com/climbers-forum/1810189/El-Capitan-Geologic-Mapping-Project El Capitan, Yosemite Valley; Granodiorit, Granit, Tonalit; PUTNAM, R., GLAZNER, A. & LAW, B.: Geological Mapping Project EL Capitan, SE-Face

Sandstone can be fine-grained and coarse-grained, same as granites, but additionally the last can even occur with porphyritic structure (e.g. Falkenberger Granite). Sandstone can be more rigid as granite. Limestone can be more rough than sandstone. Sandstone might have more holes in surface than dolomite … Moreover, all of that might not even have a great effect on climbing because rock anyway is polished by water or ice – or animals like … e.g. climbers 🙂 – or climbing uses younger tectonic structures as e.g. fissures.

Nothing in life is simple, especially the simple things 🙂 !

You do not have to look at the broader range of granitoids and their differences. Sometimes there are no ‚typical‘ granites within one single pluton. Moreover not even one individual granite site and climbing crag really is homogeneous! You may get an impression by the picture above and by having a look at some more within this awesome work at El Capitan where it is from: Geological Mapping Project (It’s really worth clicking through!!). – Now, did you really imagine something like this only having heard and read that granite typically is rough, there often are fissures and rounded structures are predominant!?

Let me tell you: It’s just the same with nearly all rock types! It simply cannot be described within 4 sentences or even less and one pic each! In case something is being postulated as ‚typical‘ it should be hard to find exceptions!

A rock, in which case does it fit for climbing purposes?

That’s a little bit easier to explain:

For this in general a rock has to have a minimal thickness and areal occurrence. (E.g. a dike, possibly consisting of special rock type, may be quickly crossed over but only therefore is no climbrock itself.) A minimum of strength and durability against weathering and surface disintegration, regarding the specific climate, ensures reliability of holds and trustworthyness of bolds and anchors. Evaporite rocks, e.g. rock salt and gypsum, as well as claystones are not suited and only are climbable temporily or under special circumstances. You will hardly find sportclimbing routes in those rocks, especially with standardly installed safety devices.

However, there are exceptions everywhere: despite not fitting the general requirements of reliability, ‚chalk‘, which is a very special limestone, is used as a climbrock using drytooling equipment (read and see more 😮 😀 ).

14 – The „expanded range of climb rocks“

Using these criterias for climbrocks and trying to sum up wherever possible still results in about 14 types of rock. Twice as many as the basic range we started with at the beginning of the article.

  • sedimentary: sandstones, conglomerates, carbonates, chert
  • metamorphic: gneiss, marble, quartzite, some „greenstones“
  • plutonic: some „granitoids“
  • volcanic: phonolite, rhyolite, „basalts“, „some other volcanites“
  • hydrothermal and metasomatic: quartz
steilstehende Tonschiefer

However, the thuringian slate (Spiegelwand), which I would like to climb on for years, isn’t included yet. Thus, I possibly should proceed a little bit more detailed.

Up to now I also haven’t talked about tufa, chalk, calcareous sinter (all three just special limestones) and other things rock climbers may enjoy, but make a simple typification obviously impossible. However, this doesn’t cause me headache! I am absolutely glad about the fact that there still is a difference between studying geology and not 😛

So, here simply and still simplified the results of my work  🙂 :

43 – An Overall View on All Climbrocks

Climbrocks
PDF mit arbeitsfähigen Links auf Wikipedia-Artikel und Thecrag-Areas/-Routes in separates Fenster laden

According to this table there are 43 climbrocks. (No problem to count just in another way!) Simply click on the table (or here) to open a separate PDF-window where links will work. The table supplies some point-like info and the links lead to additional external information. My article is not based on Wikipedia info, however most of the linked Wiki-articles about rock and geology are really fine with me. Additionally you may search by links to the Thecrag databasis for climbing areas and routes where you can experience the individual climbrocks in real life.

In order to keep systematics somehow correct and to present the info in context some rocks are included, which are no climbrocks in the above defined meaning.

Ice is completely ignored as water by definition is not a rock even when frozen. Not even in Polar region you will find any permanent climbing routes, especially none with really long lasting bolts and anchors. However in permafrost regions water ice may change general unsuitable rocks and even loose rock to climbable aggregates by the additional binding of the ice.

I cannot guarantee for the correctness of all results when using the links to the Thecrag databasis. The examples are right. All the rest depends on accuracy of the collaborative work as it is typical for the Thecrag idea.

P.S.: Via Ferratas 🙂

There are way less of Via ferratas than climbing routes, however a first search by me (results up to now not verified!) seemes to  indicate that you might enjoy quite a view different rock types by using Via ferratas (see green hightlighted climbrocks in picture).

Simply try and feel it!

In case this article has invited you to learn more about rocks and on occasion to climb different rocks: Good luck and Glückauf 🙂 !

Have a close look and you will realize that everything is changing as soon as local rock changes: landscape, vegetation, wine, people, climbing …

😀 Rocks rock!

Some nice Rock Info and Pics for Climbers

MEYER, J. & SCHEIBER, T. (2011):  Achtung Stein! Teil 1.- Bergundsteigen, 2011/2; 70-83
MEYER, J. & SCHEIBER, T. (2011):  Achtung Stein, Teil 2.- Bergundsteigen, 2011/3; 72-81
MEYER, J. & SCHEIBER, T. (2011): Achtung Stein! Teil 3.- Bergundsteigen, 2012/2: 56-67
LAW, B. (2012): El Capitan. Geologic Mapping Project.- Super Topo Climbers‘ Forum: Topic Author’s original post; Apr 26, 2012
HOWARD, B. C. (2013): Yosemite’s Iconic El Capitan Mapped in High-Res 3-D.- National Geographic
NELSON, P. (2014): Geology for Climbers, Part I: Igneous is Bliss.- Rockclimbing.com, 2014-11-01
NELSON, P.  (2014): Geology for Climbers, Part II: In a Sedimental Mood.- Rockclimbing.com, 2014-11-12
NELSON, P.  (2014): Geology for Climbers, Part III: Metamorphic Rocks.- Rockclimbing.com, 2014-12-06
BURR, A. (2015): Flash: The Many Different Types of Rocks. Learn more about the rocks you climb.- Climbing, July 2015 (Online May 2, 2016).
GREEN, S. (2017): 3 Types of Rocks for Climbing: Granite, Sandstone & Limestone.- ThoughCo. Updated Feb 2017.

*): Windischeschenbach, Bavarian town most famous as of Zoigl-beer, as of one of the deepest drilled holes (9101 m) and the hightest derrick on firm ground (83 m) in the world. Beginning 1987 to 1995 the German Continental Deep Drilling Project (German abbreviation: KTB), a geoscientific drilling project, took place here. The preserved derrick is one of the points of interests of the GEO-Zentrum and the Geopark Bayern-Böhmen.

Within a distance of about 100 km you can climb (sport climbing) at least on 7 different rocks and additionally quite a few varieties of granites – in the midth of the town granite climbing is possible at Burgfelsen Neuhaus just in the valley  of river Waldnaab.


Zoigl-Brotzeit

(Pic really just presented as of the breccia-like sausage at the right and the only fluid some geologists on occasion might accept as rock 😀
– Sport climbers would never do so 😉 )

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